i'm all for the faders who are tring to find a way out. but once the shit really hits the fan. hard headed jw's only understand, a good ream job. like they never heard before, i've tested this over the years. i start out nice. then turn into thier worse nightmare. as soon as they acting like wt zombies.
johnny cip
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Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??
by Seeker4 ini'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).
and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.
people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!
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Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??
by Seeker4 ini'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).
and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.
people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!
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johnny cip
skaLLY IS A no nonsense wt EXposer. i've personally heard her , make jw's at bethel . in the writing , service dept. etc. look like DOPES. and run circles around them. many times. the girl has knowledge of the wt that few can hold a candle to. once you have all this knowledge. it's hard to see long time posters . many of whom , know close to what she does. let the jw's kick the liveing shit out of you. and not speak up. I THINK THAT'S HER WHOLE POINT!!!!!!! once the cong. or elders start shitting on you. i read so many stories , of how these knowledgable x or fading jw's let themselves get kicked . and raked over the coals some more. many times for years. going home crying, hiding behind the curtains, moving out of state. killing themselves. etc. i get sick of reading these stories. it makes my heart cry. should every jw's jw make a hard stance NO. BUT there comes a time when , your fed up. to let it fly.and it takes time. to many here let their jw family off the hook on the U.N. 607, 1914 1975 . ORGAN TRANSPALNTS, BLOOD, PYRAMIDS, NO VACCANATIONS, 1919 ETC.THESE ARE ALL SIMPLE ARGUEMENTS. ( none of it was from god). and the jw's know it. i say after the jw's \ wt dragged you in the MUD. PERSONALLY. the gloves are off. and i never take any shit from any of them. (all the while planting seeds). jw's are not nice people. ONCE THEY HAVE EITHER FUCKED YOU, OR YOU SHOWED THEM YOUR TOO SMART FOR THEIR B/S. so i just bury them in their b/s. that's the 0nly thing they understand. AND IF many here can't see this fact. then they are still blind on how to handle rabid jw.s i shit on jw's and put them in their place before , they even get to make their sales pitch. and trust me i have the knowledge, and the balls. john
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Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??
by Seeker4 ini'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).
and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.
people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!
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johnny cip
auld soul; your right i should have left out the part about, the dog. but it turns out to be a true story , i was walking the dog and got into a heated debate, with a jw. well the jw was losing the arguement, and tried switching to the dog. how cute it was etc. i pulled the dog away and told the jw. not to touch it. he may be able to teach the dog to shun me and hate me. just like the jw's taught my dad to hate me. the jw got very upset. but i made my point. Zarco seems like a nice enough guy. who has many questions. which he is searching for answers. and if he's honest with him self he will find them . john
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Met with the C.O., and need help with 1975
by OnTheWayOut inhere is a quick summary, in august i turned in an elder resignation letter stating that i could not teach doctrine from the governing body because i did not "know" them at all, and i had doubts.
when asked by the elders, i said the doubts spring from this generation and 1975. the elders took no action, waiting for mother to tell them what to do.
would want to talk to me on his visit.. this week, our c.o.
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johnny cip
ok i haven't read the new awake. but didn't it say something to the effect that the world, universe was created some 15 BILLIONS YEARS AGO. THAT WOULD GO WAY BEYOND 7000 YEARS i would work this into the arguement. plus the oct 8 68 afake pg 13 about eve being created in the same year as adam. in 4026 b.c. ther are too many ways to tie their feet . the c.o. stumbling you , because it was more important to get his free dinner and green handshake. would be a major point. this sounds easy to me. i would piss the shit out of all of them. you will be fine,,, john
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Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??
by Seeker4 ini'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).
and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.
people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!
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johnny cip
zarco said;Freedom does include great freeness of speech. But when one decides - and we all decide whether to belong to an organization or not - that freeness is reduced somewhat by the ability/will of the organization to change. For instance one could not freely yell out “fire” in a crowded building unless there really was a fire. One could yell out such information in a home or another forum where the size of the audience would determine the appropriateness of such a comment. If you yelled fire in my house I could quickly determine the truth of such freeness of speech. If you yelled the same words in a dark crowded concert hall I may not be able to determine the truth of your words because of the crowd or other.
i ask a simple question . what org has been screaming FIRE. in large crowded buildings ever since i can remember from the 1960s. i had no freedom . when i told the jw's in the early 70's . i didn't believe in 1975. i just got my ass whipped by my dad. and told 1000's of times i would be destroyed in 1975, by every jw' adult. this was all tied in with the generation of 1914. etc. i was forced to sit in thoses conventions. day after day . right here in new york city. AND HEARD FRED FRANZ AND OTHER BETHELITES SCREAM FIRE , FIRE FIRE, NOT ONE OF THEM WAS RIGHT. I HAVE SEEN MOST OF THESE OLD TIMERS DIE. OR WHEN I RU INTO A FEW STILL ALIVE TODAY. THEY LIE TO MY FACE. AND TELL ME THEY NEVER TOLD ME SUCH THINGS 35 YEARS AGO. I HATED THE hall and the teaching from the time i was 10 years old and even in the 60's could see, it w3as mostly B.S. i never became a jw or even close to it. watched my aunt die die from the blood doctrine in the late 70's even tho she left the wt . and accepted blood but it was to late. they cursed my aunt. to no end. i didn't see any love here. funny her funeral was at a catholic church. this devote jw. it was a nice loving service. and the few jw family members . stood outside the church . on orders of no freedom of conscience from the WTBTS. thats were they learned to disrespect the living and the dead. the wts. but they all showed up for the free meal. in my book that is being a hypocrite. fast foward to 1998. my dad the holier than thou. jw. starts to push the old wt junk dowm my throat when i was down and out. but now i'm older and smarter. and start testing the wt mag's and old books i studied as a kid. i was told CLEARLY THE WT HAS NOTHING TO HIDE. "LOOK UP ANY THING IN WT BOOKS I WANTED. I WOULD FIND NOTHING BAD" it was all food from JEHOVAH'S TABLE. well it only took about a month. without the internet. to have my dad call the police on me next to every day. because he or none of the elders sould handle me or the wt lies . flip flops, false prophices, etc. you name it i found it. the end result was i was kicked out to live in the street . because i proved it an incontravertable fact that the wt is full of shit. what really amazed me was how Little , these life long elders, p.o.'s,bethelites etc, knew about the wt history. it was truely a sad experence. i could go on for hours. but i hate to type. i mean no disrespect. but i wouldn't even let anyone that defends the wtbts pet my dog. john
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Judge Rutherford was jealous of the Great Pyramid
by VM44 inthe following letter was from brother morton edgar to brother frank l. parsons of portland oregon.. it and other letters may be found on this webpage, http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/contents/treatises/edgar%20parsons%20letters.htm.
morton edgar was a bible student and student of the great pyramid, having written several books upon the subject.. in this letter one can read that he was more than a little upset with judge rutherford for discarding the significance of the great pyramid, and morton gives the real reason as to why rutherford got rid of the "witness of the pyramid".. --vm44.
morton edgar 27 aytoun road, s. 1 glasgow, scotland .
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johnny cip
http://www.lulu.com/browse/adv_search.php
is the place you can order van amburgs golden age mag . about the pyramid and other old reprinted wt junk they don't want you to see or read. and the good part is they cost about $7-10 each. truely bargains. for any serious wt reseacher. john p.s. that link needs you to type in watchtower
edited to fix link ~ Scully
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Should I send this letter threatening the a**holes?
by AK - Jeff incree lake congregation of non-jehovahs witnesses.
my address.
my city.
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johnny cip
jef go back to the first letter, keep the nasty intent. lay it out on the line. no need to be nice and civil. [EDITED] them straight out from every angle including the . i'm going to sue you personnally issue. you have nothing to lose. don't listen to people here that tell you to be nice. these elders are crybabies. and scared shit of thier own shadow, you just have to show them how scared shit they are of themselves. this would take me less than 5 minutes. step; on them like cockaroaches. you will be happy , if you do for years to come. trust me i know my jw's john
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Should I send this letter threatening the a**holes?
by AK - Jeff incree lake congregation of non-jehovahs witnesses.
my address.
my city.
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johnny cip
bull$hit keep the emotions. these dopes understand nothing but a good tongue lashing. in fact i would go to each elders house and ream the living shit out of them, on thier own door step. they are shit and i treat jw's as such. in fact i would turn up the letter. some more. don't let anyone here scare you. only you know how you feel. don't let anyone talk you down, put these zombies in their place. you can write them anything your heart want's they will do NOTHING I MEAN NOTHING. I kick the shit out of jw's every day. (only with words) go all the way. they can do nothing but df you. i would be a thorn in their side , till the day i die. ;l........ treat them like cockaroaches that they are. step all over them. you will be happy for years that you . stuck it up thier asses . don't miss the chance or the memories... john
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New special campaign....a few things that most don't see....
by RedPill2006 inok. we have that "special" campaign ahead.....i still don't know how i will avoid participating....my family is all excited and will put the pressure on.....i might get my 50 tracts and toss them somewhere......it will look suspicious that i finished after an hour and "placed" 50 pcs in a territory that is closed to jw.....anyway.
here a few thoughts that crossed my mind:.
everybody at my hall is all excited about this special tract and i can't get the nice conversations i usually have with a few going, because of the excitement.
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your comments are all true the wt is full of $hit. now tell it to all your jw friends and family what you have learned . and watch them stan d there like statues. i can honestly say i've never met people as stupid as an active jw's maybe moonies. but j dubs are as dumb as they come. john
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working 2 pioneers today using the old soft shoe.
by johnny cip ini lucked out this morning.
catching a load of pioneers heading to the hall for fs.
i wait for the shit load of them to pass.
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i give a little of hot action on how to handle wt dopes even using the soft shoe. .and you x jw's don't get it , i know it's not me that needs a wake up call. i a lot of you guys here have no nerve . thats why a lot elders etc , shit on you. i have no taste for b;/s from any jw. in any form. my posts should be number one.. i'm no ass kisser. i'm no plastic apostate. i get results. to many cry babies on this site.